A big question

A big question It 'a question that we went back and forth for a while' us many moons ago. The "how" and "whys" of our results may be of some interest. If anyone agrees or disagrees with them, so at least you fully understand the basis of them.The question is: Why insist on Fairbai inch in a straight line with the body, including a shot of hands? Years ago when he started our attempt to resolve the mechanisms, methods and motivations behind this type of shooting I had exactly the same question! E 'un ottimo question.We really need some' history here. When a group of us began to "experiment" with this method of filming that had been indoctrinated and prepared in one or both of the "practical" methods of recovery. One is the "method of art" at the time, because Jeff Cooper and methods to be taught a Guns. The other is pretty standard clone of the FBI known as the "Workshop gun." The majority of police recruits in this period, stressed the PPC tactical course of fire on any other method, including the much-propagated "Weaver." Plain view of the alignment, "positive" with a two-hand grip "isosceles", barricade firing with single and double action (most departments carried wheel arms), made of all variables distancesand various battery firing positions . The only time any "instinct" shooting was still lying in the six meters for the comment was something like ......." Maybe you will not be able to get the gun all the way therefore. .............." This was the situation prevailing at the time for those interested in "fight" or "practice" of photography, either by vocation or hobby. To make things worse, most if not all "civilian" Teaching is still based on the old "Olympic" style competitive work.Now REMEMBER this was at a time when specially trained units like SWAT or ESU were still childhood! William Shatner and the only claim to fame was as Captain Kirk. When police entered a job that was planned to handle it. Only the most extreme was answered with something similar to a tactical unit. At best, most services only a semi-organized squad of "hats and bats", and it was. As the police responded the way any type of call and is expected to handle any emergency, ranging from Bank arose.So alarms, theft burglary at convenience stores, construction, warehouse and residential searches, from the corridors and stairs to the roofs and cellars. Sometimes slip, and sometimes death. Sometimes you know there is a potential threat, sometimes it jumps on you. Sometimes there is a lot of light (good and bad), sometimes just a dim streetlight near an alleyway to be cleaned. Sometimes, and most of the time, there is no real light, just darkness. And the shadows! Find a store and a suspect can get a shot at a distance, from behind cover or concealment. Search for an apartment or private residence the construction of a suspect and you may get fired "sneezing" distance. You can see the threat and "prepare", or maybe just the threat MOLLE you. Maybe the badguy is in front of you, perhaps lurking behind and dragged you.Maybe only to stop a car ido mal. Perhaps it is a "nut", while the approaches are in a patrol unit drinking coffee and shooting the shit with your partner. Maybe you're out duty.The point is this: In the real world everything that can and probably will happen. As bad as it arrives, is almost as bad as SE GET.Now add: E 'in the course of being wounded, injured or incapacitated in some way, in less than optimum capacity. And 'their duty firearm, or that you will use your "backup" or shit is degenerated to the point where you must use your last ditch "hide" part. I have known situations where an agent had to take and use one of the "fallen" perps arms to save his life partner wounded. What will be in position when all hell breaks loose? Maybe you can not run for cover, perhaps there is no coverage. You can do everything right and still die, and can do everything wrong and survive. Life is a little 'crazy way.The clear that part of it, at least, an open mind and "think" it is impossible for people to train and / or prepare for every situation, every contingency. Could DONE.What Maybe you have to do is find a method or system of training will give you the best preparation for any kind survival.The "PPC" was not the answer, and can not be charged the "mode Pistolcraft. Missing.A something about how to answer a single question, eh? Without understanding the genesis or the seed that all begins with the "base" of experience that has forced some questions and answers to the whole point of being forgotten. The "straw man" arguments of talent, and the whole "thing" will become a pile of shit. And we do not lea a damn thing.The group of men who formed the nucleus of our "box", as he had met most of the police initially by interests in other areas of firearms. Most I had met through my martial arts training, are some of the "iron" pit (that shithole, I loved), we met some competition on "practical" matches. We had one time or other local, state and federal. An enormous amount of experience and desire to "train" was the link (not the agitator of the joints and various objects). Un po 'di qualità in which the policemen were not days.So barrier in the dark here. We had access, time, opportunity and resources (most of us just take one day of payment) for tours of the truth, and the train. .... And get a whole helluva lot of time range. Is there a point where at some point I had several 5 gallon buckets filled with spent brass in my trunk waiting for weekly delivery to my friend who was a fan of the load. With any responsibility in life you can live large (right Boyo?). Behlert Frank (remember him?) Still had his old shop in the European Union Lehigh Ave. This is a great business and a great place to meet all sorts of interesting characters. E 'also one of the first places that really had a role in the Activa "practical" shooting matches in the metropolitan area.Now when some street "cherries" or FNG leave the academy and left the road on which the clamshell tougher than some idiot in a bath house. Sometimes it is good to close the mouth and eyes and ears open. But for the same reason, if you do not ask do not lea. So when ever a situation it is always Dicey "interrogate" (sometimes took a different direction) and type of what was "good" that was "bad" thing that could have done better and what could have beaten the fan. If something needs doing. Even do.Alot of former policemen were really playing the old "salting Dawg." 30 years and one wakes up and documents were in and out of Florida has ido. Likely to drop dead of heart failure in a year. Life sucks and then you die, or your life sucks, move to Florida and after his death. However, the final result same.Still these guys are a huge source of knowledge. For a number of "police" argument. Most if not all of these men were veterans of the Second World War or the fight against Korea. So when I had a problem I asked. If my screwy facial expression betrayed my disbelief at the answer, usually the following refrain (if I had a dime. .....) "Listen wet nose, the square, the real business, I remember that I have more time on the road you're shithouse "...... followed invariably by ......." So FUCK close and lea. "So the way things are, I never did lea to shut up, but I did lea. "They teach you what they teach in school because he has ".............. ................" The road has its own rules, and the only really know what the hell are these. " Rule # 1 - CYA. Rule # 2 - Do not forget rule # 1.So where this leads? However, this attitude between what is "perceived" as real and what is truly real question we constantly review and re-examine everything that is "taught" to deal with all that "really" DID. The flash bulbs really began when we were able to keep a copy of "kill or die" followed by "Shooting to live". At first everyone, including myself, looked at those old photos, drawings and "dust covered" verbiage absolutely outdated, "know what I did during the BIG ONE ............ . .. "shit! But "Get Tough" had my sincere interest. One of those old days that I mentioned was the U. S. Navy "landing force" instructor for the "BIG ONE". I had seen real action, unflitered "Lucky Strike" hanging on the side if his mouth and causing chaos in some young saints bloated torso "of dollars. It 'been a thing of beauty! I was in another "fight" these boys and I felt it was "hard and the horse kept moist." Something does not add up. The methods used have been my visit Sargeant the right to "Get Tough", even the way they handled a "nightstick" and the boy it did so with enthusiasm (remember no one knew what a camcorder was!) . Maybe there was something about this "Farbu" type. I mean, at this point "Fairbai" was so good that we have during the "I & I" in LBI. And "Applegate"? Sheeet, which was the entrance to a garden, right? Then I began to read lyrics. Try to keep an open mind. After all, if "Guru" Jeff said that was so, so damn youngin 'so! Now here is the "bitch" on the whole thing ............ Virtually every reason WEF and Colonel Rex GOD for the validity of the methods (which are different Boys & Girls) are exactly what everyone knew were "disappeared" from "practical" shooting we were doing. The difference in a nutshell ......." How SUPPOSSED to do, and how you actually do it. " Yes, if I "fall" of an alleged Badme, as in a 39 degrees hinky when you know the shit is hanging in front of a fan who tempers ready to go, then yes, all "rules" to escape. If I had to stop a suspect in a crime or warrany was a well-known "A & D," then yes ...... all rules are followed. In these situations, evaluation, investigation and move to real "cover" (as opposed to just concealment) was viable, in fact, nothing is more stupid. If this was not an option, and then covered with a perfect image skel "Weaver or isosceles with positive alignment and everything was clean and orderly manner. Everything else was STUPID.BUT ................... TIMES.SEE then there were many others there is a big difference between the "IT" in their own way, playing their game with their rules and are forced to "react" to someone else "gamebook. You get forced to play the game and you're probably going to lose. Especially when you change rules constantly.So us to respond to this "work" together. Up and not bullshit. Who is working the graveyard tour mid-week. From your experience it seems that this tour on this day is usually pretty quiet. Therefore, is approximately 3:00 am, you made your "beat" rounds, done your shift reports, answered a few calls, and now needs to shitcanned un po 'di "rest of the eye." Until cooperation. Oh yes, it's winter. Snow, ice, and the bone chilling cold. Just as you find that "comfortable" position and fix the radio goes bananas. Confirmed in two warehouses alarm that has been beaten several times before. OFF to the races GO! N. siren, just above, a few blocks to go "silent". Conduct in a concise manner, the unity and the probable position of enrty spot (a window opens in January). Maybe. Maybe these guys followed the "rules" and immediately left for a second escape route available to them. Maybe you get a backup, maybe not. No matter, you have to roll with punches and has a job to do. The shop is huge, completely dark, with various levels of "coers and crannies" that Thomas, a muffin. And has been months since you answered a call here (or maybe ever) so that the project is not "new" in its approach to mind.You window cautiously and that the snow, slushy, has a large underground project Common muddy boot prints, no, wait, two different sets of fingerprints. We will see ......... if the window was Jimmie. Of course, just the window industry. Leverage these brands was something very big and very strong. Keeping in mind.Enough shit, time to go to "parties". Let's stop for a moment and take stock of our situation: 1. N. light inside (even if you could find) or abroad. 2nd At least two potential threats. 3rd Unknown area of operations. Little or no idea of how the whole show. 4th At least it is a murderess armed with something big and strong. At least. 5th Have other officers to worry about. 6. Cold as a son of a bitch. Rigida, dressed in winter uniform, can not move very well. Adrenaline pumping like a mother. 7th Why not become a dentist like Mama wanted? So, go ahead. Your spouse or the backup is "fuck receiver position in the rear to handle the" wire ". Come now, you go ................................... So what I have done in such a situation, know what others have done in these situations, and I know how they were trained to do and, above all, know how to handle it. This is the "rub "............ almost all states FEM filming live is exactly what I saw and experienced in my actions and those of others. All well-trained, diligent and good "of the police, knew their business. And that was before they heard of these methods or investigating such sources.SEE ........................... This was the missing link that everyone knew, but could not really specify. This was the information. You can forget the "statistics", the "hundred", ignoring the more than six decades of knowledge emprical agencies worldwide, including the FBI, the Department of Justice, and virtually all the major services worldwide free (not to mention worldwide conflagration in years). Forget all that. I know what my "instinct" is and what is the "instinct" of a number of others in similar situations. Considers that make it good or bad? Does it matter? And 'what it is. Something such as death and taxes, or death. We can talk about a storm that follows is what is.Okay. Therefore, a comparison of what he knew of interest in my experience and having seen first hand, and the first person through various accounts, the reasoning follows FEM and the method of use instructions and how much respect for me, and others whose views had not grown to respect. What was experienced at that po 'old manual.The task now is to do more research and methods to make those lives. This means that we consider the material found on this subject, and therefore the understanding and improvement it.BUT, you may ask, with regard to the "instinct" part. Do not you know? Yes, we did know how many (certainly not all) people react when placed in life and death emergency. The work has been to tear over this method, finding any fault, find strengths, and to be totally ours. Only then, once you really know what the hell we are doing (and speak), you may decide to offer real solutions for us. Nothing less than fully explored, and to inculcate an understanding of the method INTELLECTUAL FRAUD in a real honest and effective compared with any other method. "Like hell you judge something without the mind set.During this period (mid late'70s) there was a growing number of" experts "to enter the field. Cooper, first, then names like Taylor, Faam, Ayoob, and many others. For the most part, all the "drag" line of the party. TI was weaver. Everything else is outdated, obsolete and old fashion. Well, at this point I started collecting everything I could on the shot. All. From the oldest manuals and books for the more mode. Reviewed joual and, of course, has continued the training. What is really eye constantly leaing opening.Studying McGive, Hatcher, Roper, Nichols, Weston, Gaylord, askins, Jordan, the "old" work in copper, and many other men and other sources like Leatheeck and Infantry Joual, old issues of American rifleman was surprising. My collection of research has never stopped growing. I do not "stop" for leaing, but rather that the voice in contemporary later.The solo un po 'in popular magazines of arms was Brad Steiner. Much of what he wrote reflected what I knew to be true based on my experience. In reality it was a gap and the need for methods that are specifically about shootings. The only method is very close bantered about at this moment is the "speed of rock". Steiner contemporary articles were very interesting and has caused much resentment and remember controversy.I a slam aginst Steiner and John McSweeny by Mas Ayoob. He was referring to the use of a mirror to check and adjust the cooking poistion, alignment and so forth. It 'was a method advocated by many "old days" as a true and tried, in the form of daily practice outside of the range. Easy. Simple. No "clear". Everyone has a mirror. Perfect sense to me. It worked. Great! Well, Ayoob similar to "mental masturbation. I'm not really one to mince words, it is usually (not always) better to speak clearly. I could not help but wonder what the reaction of men like Paul Weston of the NYPD (who supported the formation of this large mirror) or "Jelly" Bryce would have been to that comment. E 'also thought that Brad Steiner's reaction, and perhaps more, the reaction would have been John McSweeny Mr. Ayoob had made that comment nose to nose, instead of on paper. In essence, what Ayoob was saying, a little veiled, as it was, is, you are a "straw". When are there? Oh yea ................................................ ............. What to do with this information, both new and old. Well, obviously the thing to do is look at the most basic problems presented by any situation and build on there.Easy enough. Really? Well, actually no ...................................... The first thing we did was to define the terms used. When this and that made this statement, what does it really mean? When we talk about this a Shooter Shooter B are really understanding the terms used. Or is it a party that knows what the hypothesis of a certain phrase or descriptive term means. Damn, back to back jammy w're logic. Let's see ................ I stopped a guy on the street and tell him in no uncertain terms that the love of his wife, and always. As a matter of fact, I have loved for years. Man can be moved, would have the right to be, maybe even a swing at me. But if you define what is actually said, well, the situation changes. The man is married to my sister. And yes, I love deeply, always, and always will be. Before any honest dialogue aims to build from the beginning that we must ensure that we are on the same page. 1 is used. As I have said anything less is intellectual fraud.So we did a good job of defining the terms they use and what happened meant.Now ruthlessly destroying everything on both sides of hill.What not the reality of the road, we taught and how we can find real solutions to the problems presented.AND useful, here's the catch REAL ............................. . . How does all this tie on the lowest common denominator. In other words, what is the basic approach for most of these issues, taking into account first, at least the ability, skill, experience and knowledge. If we can start to build on this, then we have something really worthwhile.So here are the "problems": 1. Visibility. Perfect for zero.2. Near sudden extreme violence. Ready. Reagent. Ready. Active.3. Enagaging opponents at different distances and / or heights/360 degrees. Close / medium / long distance. Effective transition. Active and reactive.4. Ability to maneuver and fire.5. Ability to fire in a movement target.6. Heat capacity of discrimination or advantage positions.7 discomfort. Ability to fire cover and / or concealment. Two different tactics problems.8. Ability to fire with both hands. Tandem-strong and weak. Weak.9 unique and strong. Ability to fire, when the vision is impaired.10. Throughput weapon.11 arms. Emergency reloading and malfunction clearing.12. The shot.We must do not address the specific problems of tactics. This list was designed for the most basic general against any kind of "shooter" regardless of "work" specificity. Six three 200 pounds. tactical police can solve these "problems" in the same way that May 5 foot 100 lbs. home, you may need. Sounds stupid? Do you think it.How together curriculum, not forced or awkward positions or maneuvers. Everything is based, wherever possible, the mobility, the dynamic nature of the body, and "instinctive" action / reaction. takes into account next to worst, and work from there (in the worst cases have already died). The entire system must be as perfect as possible. One of the forms of synergy with other components. Not just a "group" of techniques independent of one another. As general as possible, to cover as many contingencies. Weak offhand shot is composed of the same mechanics as two braces handed shooting. The basics are easy to maintain and implement system-wide strike. The grip for the draw is the same as for cooking. The grip when running, climbing, jumping is the same for the preparation and cooking. The grip is inclined when he is on his knees, when the same block whenusing torque is the same when using the "pop" and the fire. This is an ugly thing under the stress of violence in the real world? The system? We have to be another long line (if not survive). But for many of you, not what you think or what you "pidgeonholed. FINALLY ........................... ........ The grip! Well. First. Read all these parts again. Really put some effort to understand what is said here.Fairbai admonishes us to extend the thumb along the "slide release" (for clarification). Mentioned several times. NOT teach that grip as the main program. We practiced a lot and some liked and some did not. But this is not the issue here.The promoted by the WEF is particular for the sample of weapons, NO FEM. Many of the gunners, and in many manuals of different sources, and the same lawyer to hold weapons. For the 45 ACP countries. It 'almost de rigueur. It has helped some of the rules to make the WEF said, no doubt. For others it is a success far less venture. Some improvement of the practice, while others have not.Now we need to know why? Colonel Applegate had a reply, and we had our (more on that later), but we tried to understand why we have asked the WEF and what could have been missing.First we must remember that "the resumption of living" was written in its original form (we have the manual) as a manual for skimmed milk powder. UNIFORM organized a body of police. "Shoot to live," is an extended version of SMP manual. Why is it so important? As the milk powder, as most agencies have issued a "duty" of weapons. A standard pistol. This was the 45 ACP. But that's not all! The ACP 380 and is also released a cause of great importance. The use of the thumb extended plug for the 45 ACP had recommended more to do with the design of the weapons with anything else. The angle between the grip and the barrel is such that a "convulsive" (which is new) with the thumb is wrapped in the horizontal adjustment barrel on land that is so important to all forms of accurate shooting. Rather than the method taught by the WEF. Thumb helped place the extent of weapons of backstrap to muzzle in a "best" way for that weapon. A "greedy" a tendency to lose this upside down. In addition, the WEF had fairly large hands and a great grip. We also realized this and adjusted accordingly. Joual with smaller hands who could not adapt or use the 45 ACP was issued the lowest in 380 ACP. Now notice the line drawing on page. STL 19. These drawings were made directly from photographs. See how the thumb is extended in the picture. I have pretty normal size of hands and a good grip, and my thumb is not close to this position. I am certainly not alone in this problem. FEM recignized too, which is why we issued smaller pistols for some officers.Again this book was made before the second world war and done with the issue, 45 or STANDARD ACP, 380 ACP in mind as a piece uniform order . FEM using the rate of extension of the thumb is also evident in their method of cooking such as the A1 and M1 carbine Thompson sub-mechanized weapon. He liked this method.Colonel Applegate has different ideas. Its functions exposed to large numbers of weapons used in combat in different countries. Luger to the Walther from a Colt automatic revolver, one for a Browning Mauser. Applegate calls for a unique cooking method that the battle was applicable to any weapon, anywhere in the world. That is why Colonel Applegate supported the "point shoulder" locked wrist, convulsive grip method. The system by itself allow anyone to collect any gun and the power of fire with effect (his words Killing Man precision). Since each project has an angle between handle and muzzle, different weight, balance, length of the muzzle, the hearing opened, and a unique method was designed to accommodate a large number of pistols. E 'GENIUS! So, at this point I agree with the approach of the WEF. And all the other shootists? As Bill Jordan. Look at his grip, so tight and convulsive Fisted as you can get. And he is one of many that took a different approach to what is shown on the ACT. Everything you want to do is to follow the most basic FIRST. FIRST roots. FIRST BASE MAS! MOSTBASICFIRST! Applegate was completely satisfied with what he leaed during the Second World War. NO, it was not. Nos dijo que él han enseñado personally COMPLETELY visión PRIMERA fuego y, a continuación, el punto del " " hombro si tuviera que hacerlo de nuevo. YEP! NADA está escrito en piedra! Hay otras razones detrás de la diferencias entre Sólidos FEM y Applegate, así como otros existentes durante este tiempo. Pero, todos los demonios que en el pasado. ¿A quién le importa, ¿verdad? Okey dokey. Volver al Foro Económico Mundial y el pulgar extendido. ....... AHORA tratar este .... ........ incluso si a usted le gusta la ampliación de su dedo pulgar para que sustituya .45 auto con otro auto, medianos y grandes / pequeños mark. ¿Cómo es la sensación " ", apuesta ajustar cada uno con diferentes Agarra piece.Now rueda de arma de fuego. Pruébelo CON QUE! Hmmmmmmm ..... cómo es ese trabajo a cabo? No, no es el modelo 29 S & W, el pequeño marco de dos pulgadas que intentar ....... Bueno, no veo cómo se amplia pulgar funciona en absoluto with a revolver. No doble acción sin duda! Now what? ¿Qué te parece esto ........... Usted deber primordial llevar un arma que es un gran marco de automóviles. Ok. Usted también llevan un pequeño cuadro " " snubby en el tobillo .... el por si acaso " " arma de fuego. Y, tal vez a Beretta .25 Mierda como su " " va a ser tarde para la pieza dinner. TRES diferentes armas de fuego, tres y tres diferentes mordazas " " siente. O mirar hacia abajo la línea de fuego a personas que están buscando a usted para la instrucción. Todas las formas y tamaños, todas diferentes en muchas maneras, y probablemente todos los que prefieren una pistola. Maldición, usted tiene que encontrar la más fundamentales a partir point.My respuesta? Un fuerte, natural y (me atrevo a decirlo) convulsivo agarre. GRIP El mismo que ha utilizado desde la infancia a sostener y usar herramientas y objetos, para hacer un puño, levantar pesos, etc etc . pulgar oponible. simple. Este es el más básico de acción posible. Todo el mundo puede hacerlo. Todo el mundo lo entiende. Y es aplicable de manera general para una gran variedad de tipos de cambio, se basa, las discapacidades y las armas. Se puede utilizar para cualquier tamaño automático o cualquier tamaño de rueda gun.NOW !!!!! ............................. LEER ESTA VEZ DICEN ¿He de TI FUE LA MEJOR FORMA O SOLO? No, no lo sabía! Sólo dijo que era el más básico! Lo que hice fue decir que era la más básica, sencilla, accesible a GRIP USO como una fundación. Obtener algo SÓLIDOS bajo su cinturón AHORA, a continuación, hacia el método de trabajo y / o el objetivo que desea. y más poder para usted! Mi filosofía en pocas palabras: yo podría enseñarle técnicas muy eficaz que tenga un poco de tiempo para dominar. Pero junto con lo que estoy le puede enseñar algo que usted puede utilizar ahora cuando salga de aquí y la cruz que desertó parking. BÁSICOS Maestro primero y luego el cielo es el límite. FEM Incluso dice más tiempo le han enseñado los diferentes métodos. Eie Cates cuando creó el USMC estrecha con el programa de lucha contra la Nakabyashi elegir cuidadosamente sus fundamentos. me dijo que era una norma: La parte de la mano con el pelo no es la palma! En el núcleo de lo que es todo lo que estoy saying.I estoy seguro de que he perdido algunos puntos más destacados (lucha contra el sorteo y algunos otros temas), pero he perdido un día entero en esto y estoy bastante perdido por ahora. Hice mi mejor para ofrecer sonido razonamiento. Eso es todo lo que puede hacer. Esta línea de pensamiento puede ser aplicado a casi cualquier cosa, desde luego todos los aspectos del armado y desarmado cerca combat.Copyright 2003? Carl Cestari comenzó su estudio de las artes marciales con el judo a la edad de 7 años bajo la dirección de Yoshisada Yonezuka. Durante los últimos cuarenta años o más Carl ha dedicado su vida al estudio de las artes marciales, mano a mano sistemas de combate, la historia y la religión. Él es la mejora continua a través de él sus estudios. ¿Qué hace que Carl es su única combinación de artes marciales, la aplicación de la ley, militares y de experiencias en el mundo real. Carl has been exposed to a multitude of people with a wide variety of experiences. La siguiente es una lista de algunas de Carl? s filas y honors.Shinan (Fundador) Tekkenryu jujutsuRyokudan (6 º grado) Koshinkai Karate bajo John BurrelleGodan (5 º grado) Jujutsu Clarke en virtud del Mundo Jujutsu Fedaration (ahora extinta) Sandan (3er grado) en virtud de Nippon Kempo Narabu SadaNidan (2 º grado) de Judo bajo Masafumi SuzukiShodan (1er grado) de Judo bajo Yoshisada YonezukaShodan (1er grado) bajo Shukokai Karate Kimura, Kadachi y YonezukaShodan ( 1er grado) Daitoryu AikijujutsuInstructors-Charles Nelson Certificado del Sistema de Defensa en virtud de Charlie Nelson